Wednesday, August 18, 2010

Mosque supporters matched by 9/11 'truthers' Obama 'is declaring his party's values are those of the elite, not normal Americans'


By Bob Unruh
© 2010 WorldNetDaily

The site of the proposed Muslim Community Center and Mosque, two blocks from Ground Zero is Shown at 45 Park Place in New York on August 17, 2010. Owners of the propertty involved in the controversial project claim the community center is intended to help bridge the gap between Christians, Jews and Muslims with exhibition space and recreational facilities in addition to an area for Islamic prayer. UPI/John Angelillo Photo via Newscom

New poll results from CNN reveal that roughly the same number of Americans support the idea of an Islamic mosque just steps from the Ground Zero site where thousands died in an attack by Muslim radicals in 2001 as believe Barack Obama "probably" or definitely was born in another country.

"If we can call the former group 'fringe,' surely we can call the latter group fringe as well," said Erick Erickson in a commentary on the Redstate.com blog.

"There is no great split in the United States of America on the issue of the Ground Zero mosque," he continues. "Sixty-eight percent of Americans oppose it. In fact, using the same metric – CNN Opinion Research polling of 1,000 Americans – more Americans have doubts about Barack Obama's birth story than support the mosque.

"Consider that for a minute," Erickson wrote.

In an update, he noted that the percentage of people who think 9/11 was an inside job is equal to the percentage of people who think the Ground Zero mosque is a "good idea." Various polls have ranged from 26 percent to about 33 percent of Americans who suggest 9/11 was an inside job.




According to CNN, the survey was conducted Aug. 6-10. The results have a margin of error of plus or minus 4.5 percent.

The mosque question was: "As you may know, a group of Muslims in the U.S. plan to build a mosque two blocks from the site in New York City where the World Trade Center used to stand. Do you favor or oppose this plan?"

Twenty-nine percent favored the plan, and 68 percent opposed it.

The earlier CNN poll asked, "Do you think Barack Obama was definitely born in the United States, probably born in the United States, probably born in another country, or definitely born in another country?"

Among all Americans, 11 percent said definitely another country, 16 percent said probably born in another country, 29 percent said probably in the U.S. and 42 percent definitely in the U.S.

The total of those who at least have doubts about Obama's birth story total 56 percent.

The analysis suggested "therein lies the great problem for the Democrats and why Barack Obama has locked in a Democratic disaster come November."

Erickson wrote that Democrats no longer can connect with ordinary people on a moral level, losing the ability to address the question "should the mosque be built" after the discussion of "could the mosque be built."

The Erickson analysis suggested that the silver lining up until now has been that Republicans have been so unpopular, too.

"Barack Obama siding with the Ground Zero mosque will change that dynamic and it will crush any Democrat hope of mitigating losses in November. The 29 percent of Americans who Barack Obama has decided to line up with are convinced that the 68 percent who oppose the mosque are prejudiced bigots who hate all Muslims," he wrote.

"Barack Obama has now locked in a Democrat disaster in November because in lining up with the fringe who support the mosque, he, as leader of the Democratic Party, is declaring his party's values are those of the elite, not normal Americans," he wrote.

On the RedState forum page were a series of submission from Obama critics.

"Like a cowboy that hasn't practiced drawing his gun enough, Obama shot himself in the foot with this whole mosque thing. Obviously, it is insensitive to build it. WorldNetDaily had a story in 2007, I believe, about them trying to build a mosque at the Flight 93 sight. Hm, a pattern maybe?" wrote one.

Wrote another, "Using a standard logic formula, if there are more people who are birthers than there are that support the mosque, then why aren't the people who support the mosque considered fringe according to their own standards?"

The issue raised the eyebrows of U.S. News and World Report.

"The White House stepped into a crater the size of ground zero when President Obama decided late last week to weigh in on the side of Islamic supporters who want to build a mosque two blocks away," wrote Bonnie Erbe.

"Why the president waded into that cauldron is beyond me. There is no federal issue in this case. Building permits and architectural review are all a matter of city and state law."

She continued, "I guess the president doesn't think his fellow partisans have it tough enough this year. They already have to explain away the tottering economy, a country where unemployment is high and jobs are scarce, a towering deficit and more debt to come as Mr. Obama's health-care reform law phases in. Plus, it's an off-year election and the party in power historically loses seats in Congress under these circumstances.

"On second thought, I guess now I agree that the president should have made that statement whether he had jurisdiction over the matter or not. Democrats could benefit from having to jump one more hurdle," she suggested.

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